I'm taking my time with this article, but couldn't help but pipe up when you mentioned The Mueller Report because not only did I read it once, I read it twice. There was so much in it that seemed damning to Trump and dangerous for the United States. Why more people were not jumping up and down after reading it still stuns me. Why Bill Barr pretty much swept it under the rug shocked me and it should have shocked everybody else. Now back to the rest of this article and thank you for confirming why I was so intrigued by the report.
"'There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,' McCarthy (R-Calif.) said. [. . .] Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: 'Swear to God.' [...] [Paul] Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: 'No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.'"--Recording of June 15, 2016
For more than 6 years I've been saying that if the NY FBI field office isn't fully investigated and the appropriate people indicted, there is no such thing as justice.
I am going to read this again it is chilling and the only other person who took the time to break this story out point by point is Keith Olbermann in his Countdown podcast episode 118 he devoted the entire segment 1/24/33 It is frightening. The collusion deception and Everything else is so clear. The Road to Unfreedom. The fact that we may be or are hostages of insurrectionists now in the House. 45 back on social media Horrendous. We have to be strong and Fight Like Ukraine For Freedom
I remember listening to Snyder and Masha Gessen discussing whether Russia played a role in the 2016 election. Gessen was pretty adamant that Russia had not. At that time, I was more familiar with Gessen's writing and books than with Professor Snyder's, so thought Gessen was probably right. I'd like to hear Gessen's viewpoint now, in light of the new information. Prof. Snyder makes some mighty good points here. I'm terrified that the growing fascist, anti democratic leaning of the Republicans in congress, and their staggeringly self serving behavior will, well, lead us to UNfreedom within my lifetime, and I'm 71.
I am so grateful to read this. I have been thinking along similar lines ever since 20l6. I am a ceramic artist and one piece I have in my studio is a sculpture of a garish female figure clad in gown with a plunging neckline and covered with bugs, bats, and snail shells. The figure is set on my copy of The Muller Report and is titled "All is Revealed." I keep it as a visual reminder of 2016 in all of its grotesque horror.
The Mueller report has not been read by many who should because many Trump supporters are over worked, and under paid to the point of where is the time to care? The others are illiterate. The majority do not know much about Russia, or Soviet history or history in general. There is also a HUGE problem that many Americans will distrust brown skin toned people (Mexican immigrants) versus white skin toned Russians. I know this from my own rural teaching experiences. Quite often funding is found to support the white Russian or Eastern European students, however not the brown skin toned students. Quite often brown students are used for additional funding and after the white students graduate the brown students are dropped. That is a mentality across a very broad spectrum. Gone are the Top Gun movie days when Russians were portrayed as dark, mysterious, and dangerous. But Mexicans very recently are portrayed as drug dealing rapists. That's a gigantic problem since it has never been the case of any of my very gifted Mexican students or their families.
In 2014 I noticed something EXTREMELY disturbing while substitute teaching in a poverty level rural school. A lot of students in varying grades, with varying socioeconomic levels, in varying styles of groups were making a lot of antisemitic jokes and slurs. It wasn't just one small group of neo Nazi type kids. It was the jocks, the nerds, the creative, the goths etc. and then one day I saw some anti-semitic materials come up on the school computers in the computer lab. I wasn't sure if neo-Nazis somewhere out there were making it. And at that time I was only beginning to learn about Ukraine. After 2016 I was quite certain it was Russian propaganda. Shouldn't the FBI have seen that? I thought the FBI monitors more radical things like that on the internet and especially in schools.
Thank you Dr Snyder for your report. One has to wonder how deep the treason flows. The DOJ let McGonigal free on $500,000 bond. I see either defection or untimely accident involving a balcony.
Wow- thank you! YES! "Again, if these allegations are true, they will soon be surrounded by other heretofore unknown facts, which should lead us to consider the problem of election integrity in a general way" We are letting this happen!!
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I remember Trump shouting "no collusion!" to the cameras. Vindicated. And "responsible voices" went with it, not only sycophants and yahoos. We, the media, believed what we wanted to believe-- some called it conspiracy theory.
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Kathleen Hall Jamison issued a report/book in 2018 but she was an outlier:
"Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President - What We Don't, Can't, and Do Know .
Jane Mayer in an article in the New Yorker September 20i8 highlighted "How Russia Helped Swing the Election for Trump" "A meticulous analysis of online activity during the 2016 campaign makes a powerful case that targeted cyberattacks by hackers and trolls were decisive."
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The threat by McConnell to call investigations "political", Comey's succumbing to threats, and now the fears of our DOJ about politicization.., plus the charge that Biden is politicizing government. They,those ill intentioned forces, blackmail in this way, take advantage of weaknesses. In fact the GOP has been doing this and IS doing this big time. This is so depressing. I include weakness of people who have power to stand up but don't, and too many who would rather look the other way it seems, brush it all off as partisan.. Adam Schiff's dismissal from the Intelligence Committee and all the dishonest far right appointments to committees tells what peril we are in. Schiff is an outstanding example of integrity and courage.
Due Process will come to pass in his case, will he trade tangible insights with his attorney's advice in exchange for a lesser sentence? Based on this study written he's a proven trader of measures ; so -- yes.
A second can of worms shall be opened, tieing in the Mueller findings, the J6C analysis and the then published, Senate Republican Intelligence findings...(last paragraph)... Leading right to the
sources. [...].
Thank you professor. I do feel bad for Frank Figliuzzi, saw it in his eyes, heard it in his voice on MSNBC when the arrest was first broadcasted. His old section in counter Intel where many dedicated folks work and then, this blackeye - - on the important profession our country counts on. I think the last agent traitor was Robert Hanssen, '79 - 2001 that cost ten assets their lives. Motive...money and greed. Salutes. Jim.
I was a teen during the U.S. involvement in Viet Nam and opposed the war, and opposed U.S. military intervention in other wars since then. I have Peace Movement friends who oppose U.S. military support for Ukraine. I have tried to convince them that this is a much different situation. They see our involvement as just another instance of military industrial complex wanting to make money. And believe the idea that NATO/the U.S. provoked Russia. I'm so frustrated.
After reading this piece, I get the feeling they are being manipulated by Russian active measures. They have a lifetime of ideological framework that predisposes them to see any war we are involved in as illegitimate.
It’s almost impossible to comprehend... that this sort of rot and corruption was swept under the carpet. Are western nations responsible for the war? In some measure definitely
Thank you, Dr, Snyder, for this incisive article. Two things: (1) the children of the "patriots" of the 50s who vaunted our fears of Communist takeovers now brush such concerns aside, just as (2) the children of the men and women who fought and died in WWII against fascism now strut it at home. I am so ashamed of them. But I am proud of those who have remained loyal to the principle of democracy, and especially of my neighbors in Phoenix who, despite pressure, made Arizona blue!
There's something of a pattern here. The investigation into the Trump-Russia connections was strangely limited as you say - and now we know it is true of the FBI investigation of Bret Kavanaugh as well.
I'm taking my time with this article, but couldn't help but pipe up when you mentioned The Mueller Report because not only did I read it once, I read it twice. There was so much in it that seemed damning to Trump and dangerous for the United States. Why more people were not jumping up and down after reading it still stuns me. Why Bill Barr pretty much swept it under the rug shocked me and it should have shocked everybody else. Now back to the rest of this article and thank you for confirming why I was so intrigued by the report.
And there's this:
"'There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,' McCarthy (R-Calif.) said. [. . .] Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: 'Swear to God.' [...] [Paul] Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: 'No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.'"--Recording of June 15, 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
For more than 6 years I've been saying that if the NY FBI field office isn't fully investigated and the appropriate people indicted, there is no such thing as justice.
I am going to read this again it is chilling and the only other person who took the time to break this story out point by point is Keith Olbermann in his Countdown podcast episode 118 he devoted the entire segment 1/24/33 It is frightening. The collusion deception and Everything else is so clear. The Road to Unfreedom. The fact that we may be or are hostages of insurrectionists now in the House. 45 back on social media Horrendous. We have to be strong and Fight Like Ukraine For Freedom
I remember listening to Snyder and Masha Gessen discussing whether Russia played a role in the 2016 election. Gessen was pretty adamant that Russia had not. At that time, I was more familiar with Gessen's writing and books than with Professor Snyder's, so thought Gessen was probably right. I'd like to hear Gessen's viewpoint now, in light of the new information. Prof. Snyder makes some mighty good points here. I'm terrified that the growing fascist, anti democratic leaning of the Republicans in congress, and their staggeringly self serving behavior will, well, lead us to UNfreedom within my lifetime, and I'm 71.
I am so grateful to read this. I have been thinking along similar lines ever since 20l6. I am a ceramic artist and one piece I have in my studio is a sculpture of a garish female figure clad in gown with a plunging neckline and covered with bugs, bats, and snail shells. The figure is set on my copy of The Muller Report and is titled "All is Revealed." I keep it as a visual reminder of 2016 in all of its grotesque horror.
The Mueller report has not been read by many who should because many Trump supporters are over worked, and under paid to the point of where is the time to care? The others are illiterate. The majority do not know much about Russia, or Soviet history or history in general. There is also a HUGE problem that many Americans will distrust brown skin toned people (Mexican immigrants) versus white skin toned Russians. I know this from my own rural teaching experiences. Quite often funding is found to support the white Russian or Eastern European students, however not the brown skin toned students. Quite often brown students are used for additional funding and after the white students graduate the brown students are dropped. That is a mentality across a very broad spectrum. Gone are the Top Gun movie days when Russians were portrayed as dark, mysterious, and dangerous. But Mexicans very recently are portrayed as drug dealing rapists. That's a gigantic problem since it has never been the case of any of my very gifted Mexican students or their families.
Thank you so much for your research and writing. I hope that you publish this widely. I am sharing it with all friends and family.
In 2014 I noticed something EXTREMELY disturbing while substitute teaching in a poverty level rural school. A lot of students in varying grades, with varying socioeconomic levels, in varying styles of groups were making a lot of antisemitic jokes and slurs. It wasn't just one small group of neo Nazi type kids. It was the jocks, the nerds, the creative, the goths etc. and then one day I saw some anti-semitic materials come up on the school computers in the computer lab. I wasn't sure if neo-Nazis somewhere out there were making it. And at that time I was only beginning to learn about Ukraine. After 2016 I was quite certain it was Russian propaganda. Shouldn't the FBI have seen that? I thought the FBI monitors more radical things like that on the internet and especially in schools.
Thank you Dr Snyder for your report. One has to wonder how deep the treason flows. The DOJ let McGonigal free on $500,000 bond. I see either defection or untimely accident involving a balcony.
Wow- thank you! YES! "Again, if these allegations are true, they will soon be surrounded by other heretofore unknown facts, which should lead us to consider the problem of election integrity in a general way" We are letting this happen!!
-----
I remember Trump shouting "no collusion!" to the cameras. Vindicated. And "responsible voices" went with it, not only sycophants and yahoos. We, the media, believed what we wanted to believe-- some called it conspiracy theory.
------------
Kathleen Hall Jamison issued a report/book in 2018 but she was an outlier:
"Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President - What We Don't, Can't, and Do Know .
Jane Mayer in an article in the New Yorker September 20i8 highlighted "How Russia Helped Swing the Election for Trump" "A meticulous analysis of online activity during the 2016 campaign makes a powerful case that targeted cyberattacks by hackers and trolls were decisive."
----------
The threat by McConnell to call investigations "political", Comey's succumbing to threats, and now the fears of our DOJ about politicization.., plus the charge that Biden is politicizing government. They,those ill intentioned forces, blackmail in this way, take advantage of weaknesses. In fact the GOP has been doing this and IS doing this big time. This is so depressing. I include weakness of people who have power to stand up but don't, and too many who would rather look the other way it seems, brush it all off as partisan.. Adam Schiff's dismissal from the Intelligence Committee and all the dishonest far right appointments to committees tells what peril we are in. Schiff is an outstanding example of integrity and courage.
Due Process will come to pass in his case, will he trade tangible insights with his attorney's advice in exchange for a lesser sentence? Based on this study written he's a proven trader of measures ; so -- yes.
A second can of worms shall be opened, tieing in the Mueller findings, the J6C analysis and the then published, Senate Republican Intelligence findings...(last paragraph)... Leading right to the
sources. [...].
Thank you professor. I do feel bad for Frank Figliuzzi, saw it in his eyes, heard it in his voice on MSNBC when the arrest was first broadcasted. His old section in counter Intel where many dedicated folks work and then, this blackeye - - on the important profession our country counts on. I think the last agent traitor was Robert Hanssen, '79 - 2001 that cost ten assets their lives. Motive...money and greed. Salutes. Jim.
Thank you Tim Snyder. This is quite something.
I was a teen during the U.S. involvement in Viet Nam and opposed the war, and opposed U.S. military intervention in other wars since then. I have Peace Movement friends who oppose U.S. military support for Ukraine. I have tried to convince them that this is a much different situation. They see our involvement as just another instance of military industrial complex wanting to make money. And believe the idea that NATO/the U.S. provoked Russia. I'm so frustrated.
After reading this piece, I get the feeling they are being manipulated by Russian active measures. They have a lifetime of ideological framework that predisposes them to see any war we are involved in as illegitimate.
It’s almost impossible to comprehend... that this sort of rot and corruption was swept under the carpet. Are western nations responsible for the war? In some measure definitely
Thank you, Dr, Snyder, for this incisive article. Two things: (1) the children of the "patriots" of the 50s who vaunted our fears of Communist takeovers now brush such concerns aside, just as (2) the children of the men and women who fought and died in WWII against fascism now strut it at home. I am so ashamed of them. But I am proud of those who have remained loyal to the principle of democracy, and especially of my neighbors in Phoenix who, despite pressure, made Arizona blue!
There's something of a pattern here. The investigation into the Trump-Russia connections was strangely limited as you say - and now we know it is true of the FBI investigation of Bret Kavanaugh as well.
https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/release/fbi-director-confirms-agency-sent-tips-from-kavanaugh-tip-line-to-trump-white-house-without-investigation
https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/release/after-new-details-on-kavanaugh-investigation-surface-senators-call-on-fbi-for-answers-on-handling-of-tip-line
Is this that "Deep State" we keep hearing about - and why does it seem to be a Republican asset?