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Keith Wheelock's avatar

Today we speak of Poland and Ukraine as countries. As Professor Snyder points out, this has not been the case for much of the past 400 years. On occasion Poland disappeared, then a small portion of Poland would reemerge, perhaps to disappear again.

During WW II German and the Soviet Union divided much of ‘Poland.’ General Bor’s uprising in 1944 was a recent Soviet effort to ‘rearrange’ Poland. The Danzig corridor was returned to Poland from Germany after WW II. Poland did not have an easy re-emergence as the Cold War was ending.

Ukraine has an equally topsy-turvy heritage.

I wonder how Polish and Ukrainian citizens are taught and feel about their history?

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Kelly Winsa's avatar

I found your lecture immensely rewarding, as well, definitions of darkness and how it exists. Should not the word be 'stories' and not 'myths'? Referring to volume 1 'The Making of Modern Ukraine', as my studies with Dara Marks in writing are that myths have value, universality, in fact derive from centuries of oral tradition. Indigeneous Traditional Knowledge is an example of this. Excluding deep memory is a colonial aspect of control. "And just as stories that find their tellers, the expression across species diversifies itself by thinking in the consciousness of all beings. One need only keep company with coyotes, wolves, or foxes to know this with certainty. Yet as the experience of biodiversity wanes, so wanes the capacity for thinking with nature and beyond species-specific consciousness." "Conversely, mythology is instructive in its ethic of keeping the past through the future. Imagination as normatively conceived and promoted today coaxes humanity toward a future unrelated to Elders and living knowledge of the life of the past to guide the future. Perhaps worst, aberrant imagination conducts itself as self-induced ecological amnesia while mythology articulates the story everything tells to everyone. Mythology is imaginary only to modernity. Aberrant imagination, modernity's best loved version, is antithetical to the very future it invisions."

Joe Sheridan and Roronhiakewen ‘He Clears the Sky’ Dan Longboat. (2006). “The Haudenosaunee Imagination and the Ecology of the Sacred” in Space and Culture, 9, 4, pp. 365-381.

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